Out of the SJ

[peterbirks]

How about this hand from the tourney tonight.

Blinds 25-50. You are UTG+1 with 2350 (starting stack of 2500) and pick up AsKd. UTG limps. You limp. MP1 limps, MP2 limps, MP3 limps, passed round to SB who calls. BB declines the option. Pot 350.

Flop: Ah Ac 5d.

UTG checks. You check. MP1 checks. MP2 bets 100. MP2 had 2850 at start of hand, so he has you covered. Passed round to you. You call. Pot 550.

Turn 8d.

You check. MP2 bets 200

MP2 has been an active player so far, but you have not had many hands to go on, so he might just have been getting good cards.

What do you do?

Comments

Re: On the pre-flop limping

[peterbirks.livejournal.com]

Don't understand your first sentence, Andy. Who is making it 200 and when?

Also, in sentence two, what is less of an issue than it is with a big pair?

Also, in sentence three, are you talking about the best action pre-flop, on the flop, or on the turn. And how much should the raise be?

Pete

Re: On the pre-flop limping

[peterbirks.livejournal.com]

I think I've figured out your sentence two. However, let's ignore the pre-flop action, for the moment. I know that it's an interesting area, and I could easily have stopped the description pre-flop and said "do you raise here or do you limp?" (but I chose not to). Part of the reason was that it created too complex a "tree" for later events. I like a limp here, although I know that other people like a raise. But it's not the point I wanted to be at issue.


Pete

Re: On the pre-flop limping

[andy-ward-uk.livejournal.com]

Clearly it was too early for me to express myself, erm, clearly !

1) I'm talking solely about the pre-flop decision. If you make it 200, instead of limping, then no one has implied odds to call you.

2) In any case, giving people implied odds is less of an issue with AK than it is with a big pair.

3) Pre-flop. Raise to 200 looks ok.

At the point where you pose the question, on the turn, it's all situational. Depends how you see him, how you think he sees you, etc etc. I'd do my best to get as much money in the pot as soon as possible. If you're behind, ohdearhowsadnevermind.

Andy.