Some Limit hands
Jun. 28th, 2006 08:02 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
peterbirksHere’s a couple of hands that I think that I misplayed, partly because I had only been sitting down for half an hour and I was still getting to grips with the table.
Both are 10-20 euro full ring games on Virgin.
Hand 1:
I am in MP1 with Kd Td.
UTG, a loose player who isn’t very good and who tends to overrate his hand (particulalry overpairs) limps. UTG+1 passes.
Of the other dramatis personae:
MP2 is tricky. I’ve seen him at lower levels call raises cold with 96s, raise with 75s, flat call a big pair, reraise with big pairs, cold-call raises with big pairs.
MP3 is also a quality player, but is less tricky. He raises limpers liberally, but his position here probably means that any raise wil be genuine, partly because...
CO is a loose player who will cold call a raise as soon as call a single bet. Weak, chaser, loser, but a pain in the arse when in late position to your raise, because he could be cold-calling you with anything.
Button, small blind and big blind are tight players.
Do I limp, raise, or fold?
Hand 2:
I pick up Ks Kh in UTG+1. UTG folds and I raise. I am flat-called by MP1 (see description of tricky MP2 above) and three-bet by MP2 (see description of good but less unpredictable MP3 above)
Flop comes Td 9d 4s.
I check, MP1 bets and MP2 raises. I call. MP1 calls.
Turn is 4h.
I check.
Comments appreciated, even the normal “raise at every opportunity” type.
Both are 10-20 euro full ring games on Virgin.
Hand 1:
I am in MP1 with Kd Td.
UTG, a loose player who isn’t very good and who tends to overrate his hand (particulalry overpairs) limps. UTG+1 passes.
Of the other dramatis personae:
MP2 is tricky. I’ve seen him at lower levels call raises cold with 96s, raise with 75s, flat call a big pair, reraise with big pairs, cold-call raises with big pairs.
MP3 is also a quality player, but is less tricky. He raises limpers liberally, but his position here probably means that any raise wil be genuine, partly because...
CO is a loose player who will cold call a raise as soon as call a single bet. Weak, chaser, loser, but a pain in the arse when in late position to your raise, because he could be cold-calling you with anything.
Button, small blind and big blind are tight players.
Do I limp, raise, or fold?
Hand 2:
I pick up Ks Kh in UTG+1. UTG folds and I raise. I am flat-called by MP1 (see description of tricky MP2 above) and three-bet by MP2 (see description of good but less unpredictable MP3 above)
Flop comes Td 9d 4s.
I check, MP1 bets and MP2 raises. I call. MP1 calls.
Turn is 4h.
I check.
Comments appreciated, even the normal “raise at every opportunity” type.
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Date: 2006-06-29 10:24 am (UTC)I think that the call pre-flop is an example of Gary Carson's line (in a different context) that "What you are doing is making a big mistake now in the hope that it will cause your opponent to make a small mistake later on".
I may actually return to that Carson concept later, because it's one that I have a lot of sympathy for and it explains some of the discomfort I have occasionally felt of Sklansky's conventional wisdom line. Unfortunately, any criticism of the God Sklansky is a bit like any criticism of some of the more stellar "names" on their blogs. It brings out an army of acolytes who try to beat you down in an attempt to curry favour with their leader.
Sometimes, even at higher levels, simple is best. I'm thinking of writing this in big letters in crayon on the wallchart.
PJ
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Date: 2006-06-29 08:07 pm (UTC)2+2 vs the world is an interesting battle. I'm pleased to be more-or-less neutral, although I sympathise with the World - they're more likely to come up with something original.