A Spate Of Omaha Hands
Jun. 12th, 2005 08:58 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
peterbirksNon Omaha fans tuneout. I'll come back with something else later. THis post is two posts-long, if you see what I mean:
Never say never in poker is a good principle. Last night’s PLO at Ultimate was a bit of a roller-coaster ride, and early on I fell into a trap which I sort of half-knew was there, but I jumped head first into it anyway. One can see why PLO is a tilty game.
The kernel of the hand is this.
I have QJ83 (the suits in my case are irrelevant).
Flop comes AKT two diamonds. A loose (Iamjah) player bets out $4.25. Another loose player (rawayne) raises to $8.50. I have the dry nuts – a hand that I don’t like to raise with on the flop. I flat call. Iamjah flat calls. $29 pot
Turn brings the queen of spades, making a board of AKQT two diamonds two spades.
Iamjah checks. Rawayne goes all in for $15. I have $33 in front of me and I still have the dry nuts. What do I do?
Well, I reckon Rawayne definitely has the top straight. The only problem is, he might have redraws that I don’t have. Should I call? Should I raise?
I decide that if I am going to call, I might as well raise, which at least makes Iamjah pay a full price if HE is on a drawing hand. I go all-in and Iamjah folds.
River brings a 10, putting a pair of 10s on board. Rawayne shows KKAJ (no flush draw) for a house, Kings over 10s.
So, I was calling for half the pot, with a possibility of losing it all. So I should fold, right?
Well, not necessarily. The two important factors to consider are the chances that opponent will win the pot outright, and the size of the pot compared to his bet.
In this case opponent wins 20% of the time and we split 80% of the time.
Suppose he put in a pot-sized bet of $29.
If I call, my expected return is plus $14.50 80% of time, and minus $29 20% of the time — a positive EV of $5.80 per hand. Opponent needs to be more than 33% likely to take the whole pot for it to be wrong for me to call.
In this particular case the bet isn’t even the size of the pot (the disadvantages of a small stack!) so that if I call I am +$14.50 80-% of the time, and minus just $15 the other 20%, a positive EV of more than $8.
Change opponents Jack of diamonds for the jack of spades (giving him the flush draw as well) and I should fold to a pot size bet, but would still be correct calling his much smaller all-in bet.
Anyway, I lost it, putting me $40 down. Nothing going right at Ultimate, I decided.
Never say never in poker is a good principle. Last night’s PLO at Ultimate was a bit of a roller-coaster ride, and early on I fell into a trap which I sort of half-knew was there, but I jumped head first into it anyway. One can see why PLO is a tilty game.
The kernel of the hand is this.
I have QJ83 (the suits in my case are irrelevant).
Flop comes AKT two diamonds. A loose (Iamjah) player bets out $4.25. Another loose player (rawayne) raises to $8.50. I have the dry nuts – a hand that I don’t like to raise with on the flop. I flat call. Iamjah flat calls. $29 pot
Turn brings the queen of spades, making a board of AKQT two diamonds two spades.
Iamjah checks. Rawayne goes all in for $15. I have $33 in front of me and I still have the dry nuts. What do I do?
Well, I reckon Rawayne definitely has the top straight. The only problem is, he might have redraws that I don’t have. Should I call? Should I raise?
I decide that if I am going to call, I might as well raise, which at least makes Iamjah pay a full price if HE is on a drawing hand. I go all-in and Iamjah folds.
River brings a 10, putting a pair of 10s on board. Rawayne shows KKAJ (no flush draw) for a house, Kings over 10s.
So, I was calling for half the pot, with a possibility of losing it all. So I should fold, right?
Well, not necessarily. The two important factors to consider are the chances that opponent will win the pot outright, and the size of the pot compared to his bet.
In this case opponent wins 20% of the time and we split 80% of the time.
Suppose he put in a pot-sized bet of $29.
If I call, my expected return is plus $14.50 80% of time, and minus $29 20% of the time — a positive EV of $5.80 per hand. Opponent needs to be more than 33% likely to take the whole pot for it to be wrong for me to call.
In this particular case the bet isn’t even the size of the pot (the disadvantages of a small stack!) so that if I call I am +$14.50 80-% of the time, and minus just $15 the other 20%, a positive EV of more than $8.
Change opponents Jack of diamonds for the jack of spades (giving him the flush draw as well) and I should fold to a pot size bet, but would still be correct calling his much smaller all-in bet.
Anyway, I lost it, putting me $40 down. Nothing going right at Ultimate, I decided.
