We think we know better
Nov. 5th, 2011 06:11 pmOne of the recurring themes of history is that people of the modern age -- all ages were "modern" at one time -- think that they are so much more sophisticated than the people of the past, and that there is no way that they could repeat the ridiculous mistakes by those poor unknowing souls.
This is, clearly, an erroneous assumption. We see from history that mistakes are often repeated, and that this frequently happens because we think that "we know better".
At the moment we are witnessing a slow-motion car crash of the economy and, quite possibly, of the post-Second World War democratic consensus. To take yet another error that we glean from history. We forget that nearly all crises are slow-motion car crashes. Germany in 1923 did not zoom from a stable economy to hyper-inflation in a weekend. Even "the Wall Street Crash" is better viewed over two or three years, rather than a single day or week.
And, gradually, we are seeing what frightens me the most. We are seeing in Europe a loss of faith in the democratic system, because we are at the moment being led by donkeys. To quote just a few examples from the past 48 hours (this has been repeated again and again over two years -- once again, a loss of faith in the democratic system does not happen overnight, and the situation could be rescuable, but it's getting worse by the months).
Antonis Samaras, leader of the centre-right opposition New Democracy party in Greece, has dismissed the idea of a coalition government. Still playing party politics, he claims that Mr Papandreou had rejected his proposals and that "the only solution is elections".
Angela Merkkel's mantra at the weekend was even more dumbfounding.
Meanwhile Silvio Berlusconi said that the Italian bond sell-off was "a passing fad" and that:
Talk about fiddling while Rome burns (or, in this case, while Genoa floods).
The G20 has proved to be a joke on a par with the United Nations. As Eswar Prasad, a former senior official at the IMF and a Professor at Cornell University observed,
And yet David Cameron can still claim that "we stand by the Doha Development Mandate" In other words, it hasn't worked for the past 11 years but, hey, let's carry on with the honk shops while the economic system falls apart".
Sarkozy claimed that the Cannes meeting had come up with "an action plan for growth and jobs". Well, TBH, I'd like fewer action plans and more action. Nothing came out of the G20 except more "vague promises for the future" as Professor Prasad accurately termed it.
Now, we have been here before. None of us was alive (or, if you were, you were too young to notice), but this is almost like 1919 to 1923 all over again. Liberal democracies utterly clueless, weak leaders, party politics, economies such as germany crippled by governments such as the UK and France on matters of principle rather than pragmatism. "They must pay!" cried the governments of France, the UK and Belgium, appealing to the populist feelings of the masses who wanted revenge for their lost brothers, sons, friends.
The current imposition on Greece is the Treaty of Versailles all over again, but this time Germany is on the "They must pay!" side. The mistakes of history are again being repeated, and again it is because of a need/desire to appeal to the populist masses. democracy, one might say, can have a lot to answer for.
So can you see what is happening here? If people like me can start saying "perhaps it's all the fault of democracy", then we are heading down a slippery path. On the one side, democracy could lead us to global economic meltdown. On the other, forswearing democracy could lead to a new fascism. And, if we take a Marxist rather than a "Great Man" historiographical line, we can presumably predict that great men will automatically appear to fulfil the socio-economic need.
Alastair Hamilton wrote an excellent book on Fascism in the early 1970s called "The Appeal of Fascism" (Anthony Blond, 1971). There are a myriad of relevant quotes in this, including the foreword by Stephen Spender, who observes that Fascism appealed not just to idiots -- ita also appealed to the likes of Ezra Pound, Marinetti, Oswald Mosely, Charles Maurras, William Butler Yeats, some of whom are only regarded as nutters by us today because they happened to choose the wrong side (we might also recall those English and Irish intellectuals who were slavish in their praise of Stalin at the very time that millions of Russians were starving and other principled Russian communists were being humiliated and then shot in show trials). It was not necessary to like the leaders who emerged (Hitler and Mussolini) to have an affinity for the political principles at first espoused.
As Hamilton observed, Fascism recruited
It is easy to raise the differences than to accept the similarities. Fascism recruited ex-servicemen as its core, recreating the "good bits" of heroism, comradeship, idealism and the concept of a "cause". Today the anti-democratic movement will attract a different core - the 25% unemployed (50% of unemployed youth in Spain, Italy, France to come). The "new" movements won't be called fascist, obviously -- that's a brand name that has suffered too much damage. But it will embrace the concepts of early fascism as espoused by Mussolini - state corporatism, abolition of the privileges built up by the conservative unions, a leadership that can "get things done".
All of this frightens me; it's not just that I think it might become a reality before I am collecting my pension, but that, given the hopelessness of the current political leaders, that it has a certain appeal. And, if it has a certain appeal to me, I have to assume that it will have a certain appeal to others. We have seen nationalist parties increase their share of the vote in several European countries. It's only because UKIP is not a truly radical party that it is not performing better. Old colonials are not what the unemployed young will look for -- but a charismatic, probably young, leader, who offers a "new dawn" -- preferably someone who has been jailed for his beliefs, could easily fulfil that role.
I've written before that I think Sarkozy and Merkel do realize that this is one of the major threats that they face -- and yet they are so ineffectual that they still can't do anything about it. Once again this is an echo of Weimar Germany and pre-fascist Italy. Basically these politicians have been brought up playing a different game, one in which, at the bottom of everything, there was an underlying consensus that the system worked. Once you get a significant proportion of the population questioning the actual system -- and not in an airy-fairy Paris in 1968 Jean-Luc Godard/Jean-Paul Sartre student-led wanky kind of way, but in a real "we've had enough with not having enough to eat" kind of way, then a liberal-democrat Germany could see itself surrounded by states that have thrown off the shackles of democracy and are being led by fanatic nationalists.
If it weren't so horrifically serious, the irony would be funny.
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This is, clearly, an erroneous assumption. We see from history that mistakes are often repeated, and that this frequently happens because we think that "we know better".
At the moment we are witnessing a slow-motion car crash of the economy and, quite possibly, of the post-Second World War democratic consensus. To take yet another error that we glean from history. We forget that nearly all crises are slow-motion car crashes. Germany in 1923 did not zoom from a stable economy to hyper-inflation in a weekend. Even "the Wall Street Crash" is better viewed over two or three years, rather than a single day or week.
And, gradually, we are seeing what frightens me the most. We are seeing in Europe a loss of faith in the democratic system, because we are at the moment being led by donkeys. To quote just a few examples from the past 48 hours (this has been repeated again and again over two years -- once again, a loss of faith in the democratic system does not happen overnight, and the situation could be rescuable, but it's getting worse by the months).
Antonis Samaras, leader of the centre-right opposition New Democracy party in Greece, has dismissed the idea of a coalition government. Still playing party politics, he claims that Mr Papandreou had rejected his proposals and that "the only solution is elections".
Angela Merkkel's mantra at the weekend was even more dumbfounding.
"Everyone in Europe must make an effort to achieve all that is required",she said.
Meanwhile Silvio Berlusconi said that the Italian bond sell-off was "a passing fad" and that:
"the restaurants are full, the planes are fully booked and the hotel resorts are fully booked as well".
Talk about fiddling while Rome burns (or, in this case, while Genoa floods).
The G20 has proved to be a joke on a par with the United Nations. As Eswar Prasad, a former senior official at the IMF and a Professor at Cornell University observed,
Rather than promote new ideas to promote global financial stability, the G20 has offered grandiose but vague promises for the future and a series of short-term fixes that are hostage to political fortune in individual countries".
And yet David Cameron can still claim that "we stand by the Doha Development Mandate" In other words, it hasn't worked for the past 11 years but, hey, let's carry on with the honk shops while the economic system falls apart".
Sarkozy claimed that the Cannes meeting had come up with "an action plan for growth and jobs". Well, TBH, I'd like fewer action plans and more action. Nothing came out of the G20 except more "vague promises for the future" as Professor Prasad accurately termed it.
Now, we have been here before. None of us was alive (or, if you were, you were too young to notice), but this is almost like 1919 to 1923 all over again. Liberal democracies utterly clueless, weak leaders, party politics, economies such as germany crippled by governments such as the UK and France on matters of principle rather than pragmatism. "They must pay!" cried the governments of France, the UK and Belgium, appealing to the populist feelings of the masses who wanted revenge for their lost brothers, sons, friends.
The current imposition on Greece is the Treaty of Versailles all over again, but this time Germany is on the "They must pay!" side. The mistakes of history are again being repeated, and again it is because of a need/desire to appeal to the populist masses. democracy, one might say, can have a lot to answer for.
So can you see what is happening here? If people like me can start saying "perhaps it's all the fault of democracy", then we are heading down a slippery path. On the one side, democracy could lead us to global economic meltdown. On the other, forswearing democracy could lead to a new fascism. And, if we take a Marxist rather than a "Great Man" historiographical line, we can presumably predict that great men will automatically appear to fulfil the socio-economic need.
Alastair Hamilton wrote an excellent book on Fascism in the early 1970s called "The Appeal of Fascism" (Anthony Blond, 1971). There are a myriad of relevant quotes in this, including the foreword by Stephen Spender, who observes that Fascism appealed not just to idiots -- ita also appealed to the likes of Ezra Pound, Marinetti, Oswald Mosely, Charles Maurras, William Butler Yeats, some of whom are only regarded as nutters by us today because they happened to choose the wrong side (we might also recall those English and Irish intellectuals who were slavish in their praise of Stalin at the very time that millions of Russians were starving and other principled Russian communists were being humiliated and then shot in show trials). It was not necessary to like the leaders who emerged (Hitler and Mussolini) to have an affinity for the political principles at first espoused.
As Hamilton observed, Fascism recruited
"those lower middle classes who were embittered by the economic and social crises, frightened by the idea of Communism, disappointed by the world which had emerged from the Great War, and who were dissatisfied with the traditional left- and right-wing parties".
It is easy to raise the differences than to accept the similarities. Fascism recruited ex-servicemen as its core, recreating the "good bits" of heroism, comradeship, idealism and the concept of a "cause". Today the anti-democratic movement will attract a different core - the 25% unemployed (50% of unemployed youth in Spain, Italy, France to come). The "new" movements won't be called fascist, obviously -- that's a brand name that has suffered too much damage. But it will embrace the concepts of early fascism as espoused by Mussolini - state corporatism, abolition of the privileges built up by the conservative unions, a leadership that can "get things done".
All of this frightens me; it's not just that I think it might become a reality before I am collecting my pension, but that, given the hopelessness of the current political leaders, that it has a certain appeal. And, if it has a certain appeal to me, I have to assume that it will have a certain appeal to others. We have seen nationalist parties increase their share of the vote in several European countries. It's only because UKIP is not a truly radical party that it is not performing better. Old colonials are not what the unemployed young will look for -- but a charismatic, probably young, leader, who offers a "new dawn" -- preferably someone who has been jailed for his beliefs, could easily fulfil that role.
I've written before that I think Sarkozy and Merkel do realize that this is one of the major threats that they face -- and yet they are so ineffectual that they still can't do anything about it. Once again this is an echo of Weimar Germany and pre-fascist Italy. Basically these politicians have been brought up playing a different game, one in which, at the bottom of everything, there was an underlying consensus that the system worked. Once you get a significant proportion of the population questioning the actual system -- and not in an airy-fairy Paris in 1968 Jean-Luc Godard/Jean-Paul Sartre student-led wanky kind of way, but in a real "we've had enough with not having enough to eat" kind of way, then a liberal-democrat Germany could see itself surrounded by states that have thrown off the shackles of democracy and are being led by fanatic nationalists.
If it weren't so horrifically serious, the irony would be funny.
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Never mind the bollocks, here's the PR flack
Date: 2011-11-05 10:15 pm (UTC)That Doha stuff? Here. (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/6b35814c-0707-11e1-8ccb-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1cs6UUnxV)
God help us, every single one of us.
A Distant Second
Date: 2011-11-05 10:23 pm (UTC)Even on intelligent blogs, people tend to miss the point. I'd therefore like to reiterate yours (I think):
"'They must pay!' cried the governments of France, the UK and Belgium, appealing to the populist feelings of the masses who wanted revenge for their lost brothers, sons, friends."
Not: let's fix this mess up. Yer average plasterer next door could come up with a better solution.
no subject
Date: 2011-11-05 10:33 pm (UTC)"HAlthough ministers are likely to be able to announce Russia’s accession to the WTO at next month’s meeting..."
Well, that's nice to know.
no subject
Date: 2011-11-05 10:43 pm (UTC)J.K. Galbraith, where are you when we need you? The man who coined the phrase "the shit has hit the fan" knew what he was talking about.
Oh, Shit
Date: 2011-11-05 11:16 pm (UTC)Good one, mate.
Great one. Now, let's see who listens, shall we?
"The 'new' movements won't be called fascist, obviously -- that's a brand name that has suffered too much damage."
True, true, true. But they will come. And, unfortunately, leaving the "lessons" of Versailles to one side, the knee-jerk reaction will be repatriation of invisible money (Japan, USA, even China), and "taking control:" AKA Autarky, which worked so well for Germany in the 1930s, didn't it?
As a historian, I'm happy to admit that every single Great Power after 1919 screwed up on the aftermath (oddly enough, excluding the Russians and the Austrians, and the Turks, but including what was left of Germany. Maybe only the victors, then).
In this case, there's no obvious four year multi-million killing catastrophe, with the addition of a pandemic that caused twice as many deaths as the entire war, is there?
I mean, this stuff should be simple. My suggestion of German bonds to cover Italy until Italy comes to its senses might sound stupid.
But at least it's simple, stupid. Which contrasts to the exceptionally contorted hoops through which almost all the international organisations concerned are currently running up and trying to leap over, backwards.
Re: Oh, Shit
Date: 2011-11-05 11:32 pm (UTC)The German people (and hence the government) are -- just like leaders of many generations past, fighting the last war but one (fear of hyper-inflation) without spotting that, by fighting this war, they are going to bring about a banking meltdown.
And no-one, no-one, can accept that "someone has to pay" for the credit profligacy of the past 30 years in part and 10 years in specific. And it won't be the Greek people, because they are skint and the current policies of the EU will make sure that they remain skint, or, rather, get even more skint.
Jeez, even the Russians in the 1990s saw that somone would have to pay, and wiped out a few tens of millions in life savings.
That, indirectly, led to Putin.
As you say, there are still elites in charge, in France and in Italy. The system is creaking in both countries. Can a bunch of technocrats save Italy from disintegration and political turmoil? I somehow doubt it. Will the Fifth Republic survive the revleation that the whole thing has been a financial sham and that, sorry, the hosiptals will have to close and we can't pay waiters €30k a year any more? I doubt it.
Emigration to Canada might be the best option.
PJ
Re: Oh, Shit
Date: 2011-11-05 11:34 pm (UTC)Putin? Canada?
Actually, I quite fancy Putin.
Re: Oh, Shit
Date: 2011-11-05 11:44 pm (UTC)The meme is "fighting the last war."
Not "Fighting the last war but one."
A give-away that, isn't it? But you are almost certainly correct, which makes a nonsense of the meme in the first place, but may I dare to say that you have omitted the Korean War and the Vietnam War in between?
Not that it makes a sod's worth of difference. Just a humble corrective from a notarised Historian.
Re: Oh, Shit
Date: 2011-11-06 11:05 am (UTC)Another thing that has struck me is that Germany is petrified about hyperinflation because it saw that as the prelude to Hitler. So the battle that it is prioritizing in order to stop the re-emergence of fascism in Germany may actually be one that brings about the emergence of anti-democratic leaderships in other countries within Europe. Yet one more horrific irony.
Part of this is a German misunderstanding of history. Hyper inflation was just a manifestation of deeper root causes, the main one of which was other countries' "They must pay" attitude. As a democracy, Weimar attempted to get round this by cranking up the printing presses (as indeed the ECB will, I predict eventually do as well), rather than imposing more and more austerity measures on people who were already starving.
But if Weimar had not cranked up the printing presses, Hitler would still have risen to power, and possibly even sooner.
But the fundamental problem that remains with us today is "How do you get liberal democracies to accept that lower living standards are required, without "the people" overthrowing those self-same liberal democracies?" First you have the problem of getting the democracies to do it in the first place (which no country bar Germany seems willing to do) and then you have to get the people to accept it (which even in germany is beginning to look a bit shaky).
PJ
Re: Oh, Shit
Date: 2011-11-06 12:28 am (UTC)Say, three years ago, when it was fucking obvious that there was a problem, but a containable problem.
I'm beginning to think that we don't need politicians. We need forward-looking accountants.
Mr Challinger may disagree.
Re: Oh, Shit
Date: 2011-11-06 10:55 am (UTC)PJ
Re: Oh, Shit
Date: 2011-11-07 11:45 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-11-06 12:18 am (UTC)I'd happily don a jack boot and thrust it into the smirking face of a liberal for arsing up the past 60 years.
I am no Hitlerite. Hitler was a cock who "didn't get it" just as much as today's Euro-cocks.
Hitler was still fighting the First World War and the Euro-cocks imagine we live in some time or other that is obviously not the present. Maybe some Star Trek future that will never happen.
no subject
Date: 2011-11-06 10:54 am (UTC)PJ
Pah!
Date: 2011-11-06 06:08 pm (UTC)What Europe needs these days is more cockroaches. Preferably with nice leather boots.
no subject
Date: 2011-11-06 06:11 pm (UTC)We can all be liberals when times are good. However, liberalism breeds people totally unsuited to a life of "dog eat dog" that might befall us all in the future.
Ireland, Spain, Greece (and the UK and every other country that could afford the liberal way of life) made the mistake of thinking that good times were here to stay. Good times that allow people to be frivolous liberals.
It didn't take UK/US banks long to start acting as they did before 2008 once they got recapitalised. We can only assume that as soon liberals (any party that fights the centre ground) can afford to start pissing money again then they will do so.
And back to square one.
no subject
Date: 2011-11-06 06:28 pm (UTC)Twerp
Date: 2011-11-06 07:02 pm (UTC)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cable_Street
Worth looking up.
Worthless git you is.
Re: Twerp
Date: 2011-11-07 11:12 pm (UTC)For Those Fallen In The Battle
Date: 2011-11-11 08:33 pm (UTC)Your post made me feel a little better about myself. At last, I have a decent use for the term "cockroach."
Also, "nice leather boots."
Posted on November 11th. As Birks quoted long, long ago:
"They went with songs to the battle, they were young,
Straight of limb, true of eye, steady and aglow.
They were staunch to the end against odds uncounted,
They fell with their faces to the foe.
They shall not grow old, as we who are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We shall remember them. "
Laurence Binyon that. Rather good.
On behalf of two pointlessly dead great uncles, amongst many others, may I humbly suggest that Fascism is not the answer?
Of course, it would be nice if the German government and people would come to their senses, for once in the 111 years since Bismarck was sacked. Gonna be a long wait, innit?
Re: For Those Fallen In The Battle
Date: 2011-11-12 11:52 am (UTC)PJ
Re: For Those Fallen In The Battle
Date: 2011-11-12 12:30 pm (UTC)"Private 44459 11th Battalion, Essex Regiment who was killed in action on Tuesday, 17th September 1918. Age 19."
Great-uncle of Peter Doubleday. (I was just digging this up for Paul the other day.)
Well, if names run in families, we should both hope that horrible world-wide catastrophes don't...
Re: For Those Fallen In The Battle
Date: 2011-11-18 11:53 pm (UTC)1914 – 1919.
2nd Lt Percy Helms – 9th Battalion.
Percy Helms first saw action during the Great War serving in the ranks of the Royal
Scots before gaining his commission and joining the Yorkshire regiment.
The 9th battalion arrived back from the Italian front on September 17th 1918 and was
gathered near Abbeville.
From here Percy Helms and the battalion were ordered up for an attack on the
village of Beaurevoir. This attack went in at 6-00am and by evening the village had
been captured.
2nd Lt Percy Helms was wounded in this action and died later in the day October 5th
1918 at the age of 27.
His grave can be visited today in Doingt Communal Cemetery Extension two miles
east of Peronne.
Percy Helms was the son of Elizabeth and the late John Helms of 27 Adnitt Road in
Northampton. John Helms was the brother of Ruth Starkey, my maternal great grandmother, who lived at 38 Handforth Road with her husband Alfred, a City Missionary. Their daughter Lavinia Starkey married my maternal grandfather Harold Palmer.
One day I shall visit the grave.
PJ
Re: For Those Fallen In The Battle
Date: 2011-11-19 02:09 am (UTC)I have, so far, visited the memorial cross in March (Cambs), which features -- if that is quite the word -- great-uncles Percy and Charlie. And I think of them as Percy and Charlie, and not as Perceval and Charles, and I wonder what their father Alfred and their mother, I forget her name, call her Doris for the sake of argument, felt. Two sons dead, pointlessly, in the space of two years.
I (and Paul, who is trying to track this down) don't even have a Beaurevoir.
All we have, somewhere, are the papers presented to Alfred. One of them, Percy or Charlie, I forget which, is buried in a place called "Orchard Dump." I used to believe that "Orchard Dump" was near the Somme, but I spent some time trawling around the Somme battlefields back at the Solar Eclipse, and I now think I have the wrong location and it's nearer the Belgian frontier, which would make it the younger one.
Then again, we're talking 21 versus 19. It's not fucking Rumanian gymnasts here.
Do that small thing for your family, and make sure you pass by the town of Albert on the way. There's no other reason to visit Albert, and the local food is appalling, but equally there is no other place quite like it.
God willing, there will never again be the need.
Re: For Those Fallen In The Battle
Date: 2011-11-19 02:11 am (UTC)As you may be aware, we of the West Midlands despise East Midlanders.
But ... you're all right, my son.
Re: For Those Fallen In The Battle
Date: 2011-11-19 02:18 am (UTC)I Am No Hitlerite
Date: 2011-11-06 06:25 pm (UTC)But, since you ask, no: it would be impossible to accuse you of having an affinity to Hitler.
On the other hand, you don't really have a clue about the NSDAP and the Versailles treaty and the Weimar Republic and so on, do you?
Basically, you're either a troll or a nasty little provocateur. On the Internet, we call these people "trolls," which is an ironic Aryan thing.
Try this limp-wristed aristocratic piece of junk for size. Or, alternatively, walk down the street and buy your morning paper from the Asian shop-keeper and give him or her a cheery wave as you leave.
I mean, things are spiralling out of control, yes.
But I think we've tried the jack-boots, and you know what?
They don't fucking fit. (http://www.searchlightmagazine.com/features/century/cbf.php?include=page3)
Re: I Am No Hitlerite
Date: 2011-11-06 06:27 pm (UTC)But, in a sense, the moronic underlining is part of the point ... I assume.
God is Good, in all sorts of different Liquorish All-Sorts.