Bokked

Feb. 4th, 2007 08:16 am
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The Bok Bar in Blandford Street isn't South African, which surprised me. In fact, it's Thai. However, there was fake zebra-skin and leopard-skin covering on the seats. Perhaps this was a kind of hedging your bets, or perhaps it had once been a South African bar, but they couldn't make it pay.

Anyhoo, I made my way there to meet Mr Ward and other poker gliterati for an evening of hilarity (always guaranteed if The Youngster is going to be there, and drinking). The good Doctor Channing was the only one in attendance when I arrived, but we were soon joined by Gryko, Mr and Mrs Purle, the Youngster, and Allan "Titmus" Engel. Mr Ward telephoned that he and Keith Hawkins (who had both been to the QPR-Burnley game that afternoon) might be a bit late, because "he was trying to get Keith to finish his drink". As excuses for lateness go, this one was just about as unbelievable as it gets, and we immediately assumed that it was a coup by Andy to dodge his promised spending spree (as a result of a nice $60K payday in Tunica). However, Mr Ward eventually appeared and we were all treated, as promised.

The good doctor told one of his staggeringly embellished tales of other poker players -- this one involving Murray Brown, a tuxedo, a sports car, an attractive woman, and a petrol station near Gatwick on a Sunday morning.

Perhaps I should have driven up, because then I could have joined either the Miros group (heading to the Gutshot) or the Gryko group (heading to the Vic), but instead I had to rush for my train. But I did manage to take the Noble tables for a few bucks before going to bed.

Here's some pix... pleasing in the sense that I now know there is at least one person in the world of whom it is harder to take a decent picture than me. Step forward Mr Ward.




Neil Channing, Keith Hawkins, Pete Birks, Bill Purle, Andy Ward


Late in the evening, Mr Young tries to work out how to use my camera and (almost) succeeds. I have no idea why I look like a rabbit frozen in headlights. Perhaps I'm scared that the Youngster will drop the camers.


Andy Ward, David Young, Alice Purle, Neil Channing, Allan Engel


Mr Hawkins and Mr Engel fail to realize that the first flash was red-eye reduction, resulting in Hawkins vanishing from view and Mr Engel looking away. I dunno, do these people know nothing?


Richard Gryko, Alice (Mrs Miros)

Richard Gryko shows how to drink in stereo (Tequila in one glass, vodka and Red Bull in the other, I believe), while Alice (Mrs Miros) checks how the ice is progressing in her Singapore Sling

The legendary Titmus

Allan Engel (Titmus) points at the guilty party, sticking to J2O in preparation for later play at the Vic. At about 10.30 he snuck out for 20 minutes or so. I suspect it was to put his name on the list at the Vic....

Miros

Miros in smirking mode.


Overall, a great evening, capped at the end by the Youngster attributing the reason for his moral crusades in countries "far away about which we know nothing" to the fact that, whenever there is a civil war somewhere in the world, his barber in Fulham changes.

Or something like that.

Many thanks to Mr Ward for an excellent treat. I really ought to get you guys round to dinner one Saturday evening, if only to learn of the current state of Mr Young's barber.



++++++++++++

And, finally, here's a headline from today's China Daily referring to an Associated Press story.

Clinton promises to end war if elected

Somehow, I suspect that this isn't quite what they meant to say. But, as election promises go, "Peace on earth" is a fairly good one.

Date: 2007-02-04 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pb9617.livejournal.com
1. What is J2O?
2. That looks like no Thai place I've ever been in.
3. I really fucking miss Noble.

Date: 2007-02-04 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peterbirks.livejournal.com
1) J2O is a fizzy orange concoction that is non-alcoholic

2) Yes, the place does look like a South African bar that has changed hands in the previous week, doesn't it?

3) There aren't many games of limit available at decent stakes anymore, but the short-handed games do seem to be of a weaker standard than I see on UB, Stars or Full Tilt.

PJ

Date: 2007-02-04 11:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pb9617.livejournal.com
I've never heard of a south african bar. Hm.

The softest games on Noble are the SNGs. Just sick.

Date: 2007-02-05 01:41 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I made a deliberate point of putting the lead around my neck so that I couldn't drop the camera. Despite being drunker than I've ever been in my life, I still recall that. I'm actually shocked at how much I took in yesterday. I was very ill later and Sunday has been a complete write-off. I've never had a problem knowing when to stop before.

My point about events in far away countries affecting my choice of barber makes perfect sense, but I'll explain why later. Great to see you and thanks for giving me your phone number. You will regret that!

DY

J20

Date: 2007-02-05 07:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geoffchall.livejournal.com
is in fact still and is available in a number of interesting flavours that no sane person would want to drink, although the Apple and Mango is nice. The Cranberry and Orange is particularly gruesome. Has a lot of sugar in it to increase the appeal - making it a sort of adult Sunny Delight.

Photos?

Date: 2007-02-05 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
From time to time you claim to be putting photos on this site, but I never see 'em. Whether I use Firefox (my normal browser) or Internet Explorer. Not sure what's going on. Maybe I don't have security clearance?

-- Jonathan

Re: Photos?

Date: 2007-02-05 04:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peterbirks.livejournal.com
Hi Jonathan:

Ignoring the Irish photos which, for various reasons, were made "Friends Only", I'm not sure why you can't see the pictures.

I assume that you are aware that the words between the brackets "expand" the post. This is so that people who do not want to see the pictures or who have slow connections do not have to suffer long download times.

So, let's assume that you have clicked on "The Bok Bar".

What do you now see? Just text, or a blank piece of screen the size of the picture but with a small red cross in the top left corner? If the former, I have no idea what is happening. If the latter, what happens when you right-click and then click on "Properties" from the menu generated? Does a link to www.tinypic appear?

If it does, try opening that link on its own. The picture should appear separately.

If none of that works, I'm stumped. No-one else seems to have mentioned any problems, although my IE 6 no longer displays the codes that I need to type in on Blogger in order to be able to post a comment, so I have suffered a vaguely similar problem.

PJ

Re: Photos?

Date: 2007-02-05 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I just see the text, with a couple of blank lines here and there, where each picture should presumably be. No small red cross.

-- Jonathan

Re: Photos?

Date: 2007-02-05 07:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peterbirks.livejournal.com
Hmm, v curious.

I use TinyPic rather than LiveJournal's own picture library, so they are external links. Perhaps your anti-virus software is blocking external picture links, but that would have the impact of blocking nearly all advertisements on web sites, since these are third-party links. Perhaps the link to www.tinypic.com is blocked for some reason, but I really can't understand why no link would show at all.

PJ

Re: Photos?

Date: 2007-02-05 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
When I look at the source code, I see a number of links consisting of , but as they're all the same I don't see how they can refer to different pictures. It looks to me as though the problem is in the code generation rather than in my software. But, in that case, why doesn't it affect everyone? Very odd.

-- Jonathan
(http://tinypic.com)

Re: Photos?

Date: 2007-02-05 07:59 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hm, it got confused when I included HTML in my message. The HTML fragment should have read [a href="http://tinypic.com" target="_blank"] (for square bracket, read angle bracket).

-- Jonathan

Re: Photos?

Date: 2007-02-05 08:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peterbirks.livejournal.com
Well, I'm definitely baffled.

The top picture in this set is http://i5.tinypic.com/2rnkeir.jpg, the second is http://i18.tinypic.com/4gp01ly.jpg, and so it goes on.

It looks as if the link is just generating www.tinypic.com for you when you go to LiveJournal.

This kind of webophonics is way beyond my ken, and I don't know anyone sufficiently aware of the intricacies of Internet browsers who might know what the problem is.

You could e-mail LiveJournal about this, because they seem to be keen enough on the techie side....

Pete

PJ

Re: Photos?

Date: 2007-02-05 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peterbirks.livejournal.com
Hi Jonathan

My source code runs like this for, say, the Titmus picture: (replace right square brackets with right-angle brackets)

<a href="http://tinypic.com" target="_blank"]<img src="http://i19.tinypic.com/30kc4k8.jpg" border="0" alt="The legendary Titmus"]</a] So, I have the "target="_blank" limiter, followed by the img src description. I thought that this was relatively standard HTML.... PJ

Re: Photos?

Date: 2007-02-06 05:32 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Yes, the source code that you quote is straightforward. However, in the source code sent to me, the [img ...] part is completely missing, which is why I don't see any photos.

-- Jonathan

Re: Photos?

Date: 2007-02-06 12:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peterbirks.livejournal.com
OK.

Since we know that it isn't browser-specific, four other possibilities spring to mind, although it might still be best to e-mail LiveJournal and see what they say.

1) Is it user-specific. In other words, have you made any changes to the default settings in both Firefox and IE, and could these be causing the problem.

2) Is it location -specific. Does the same thing happen at work and at home.

3) Is it ISP specific. Does your ISP block tinypic links for a reason?

4) Is it country-specific. Does Spain block tinypic links?

I can't think of anything else off-hand, although doubtless there is something that I have missed.


PJ

Re: Photos?

Date: 2007-02-06 07:47 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
OK, I've submitted a LiveJournal support request.

I think I've left my browsers at their default settings -- especially Internet Explorer, as I rarely use it.

I can't readily check at work because I rarely go to work... um, I work from home, basically.

I get the same problem using Ana's computer (same ADSL connection).

-- Jonathan

Re: Photos?

Date: 2007-02-07 07:13 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
LiveJournal responded that the problem is probably caused by some other program on my system. I run ZoneAlarm Security Suite, so I tried turning it off completely, and with it turned off, yes, I can see your photos.

So, apparently ZoneAlarm is causing the problem. But it doesn't help much to know that, because I have no idea why ZoneAlarm is doing it or how I can tell it to stop doing it, and I'm not going to keep turning off the whole suite for this little problem. I don't think I've experienced this problem on any other Web site.

Maybe I'll try researching into ZoneAlarm options someday if I find the time and the energy.

-- Jonathan

Re: Photos?

Date: 2007-02-07 10:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peterbirks.livejournal.com
Hi Jonathan;

Yes, that would be a nuisance. However, ZoneAlarm is quite a common installation, so it's strange this problem hasn't emerged elsewhere.

I don't have ZoneAlarm myself, but Norton caused so many problems with my home computer (mainly with poker site accesses) that I switched it off completely.

"False positives" are the bane of security systems. It's all very well them saying that they catch 100% of attacks, but that's not much good if they generate false positives. ZoneAlarm had a good reputation here, which makes things even odder.

The setting that you would want to switch off would obviously be something to do with third-party links to jpegs, or pictures in any format. However, if it's anything like Norton, you can input specific "exceptions" (a kind of "white-listing") and perhaps if you can find this and put in www.tinypic.com, that would solve the problem.

PJ

Re: Photos?

Date: 2007-02-07 12:13 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
OK, I've got it now: it's a ZoneAlarm facility called ad blocking. ZA thinks your photos are a-d-v-e-r-t-i-s-i-n-g, for some reason, and by default terminates them with extreme prejudice. I can reset it so that it shows a box containing the ALT text, and shows the photo itself if I mouse over the box. Perhaps not ideal, but it'll probably do. Alternatively, I could turn off the ad blocking, but I'm not keen on ads so I'll leave it on for now.

-- Jonathan

A good night

Date: 2007-02-05 06:01 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Good to meet you Pete.

A very enjoyable evening all round. The undoubted highlight for me was the revelation that David is learning Arabic at evening classes. "I WILL be of service to my country. If it needs me."

Camel

Re: A good night

Date: 2007-02-05 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peterbirks.livejournal.com
Great to meet you too, Keith.

Yes, I was just about to leave when the Youngster came out with that line. In response, I think, to Miros's query on what he actually meant to do with his Arabic.

Actually, DY's point made sense, in that the US Army is reduced to employing Arabs as their interpreters -- hardly the shrewdest of moves if you want to be sure of what the other guy is saying.

PJ

Re: A good night

Date: 2007-02-05 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I'm rather annoyed that this has appeared here because it was going to be a topic on my site at a later stage. It's true I'm learning Arabic for a variety of reasons, but among these is the fact that in the future we are likely again to be at war in an arabic speaking country and reliance on local English speakers is insane - not because you won't find any who are friendly to the west but simply because they are vulnerable to intimdidation in a way that having US/UK army trained staff aren't. This has been one of the coalitions biggest failings. I believe that the US embassy in Iraq has six yes just six fluent speakers. That's pathetic. Forget the war for the time being - even in a country with which it is at peace it should have more than six speakers of the local language. Before you think that Britain is better at these things, check out the Arabic section of the Defence School of Languages army website:

http://www.army.mod.uk/dsl/language_wings/arabic/index.htm#arabic

yep, nearly four years into our mission in Iraq and all it says is 'Under construction'. Pathetic.

But it's not all about war. The West has allies and friends in the middle east. Knowing who is who requires some understanding of language and culture. I also live close to an area of Fulham with lots of Arabic shops. That's rather the point I was trying to make before. You see I also speak German (reasonably, not fluent) but Germany is miles and miles away, whereas the Middle East is on my doorstep. I said on my site a few years ago that Portuguese should be taught instead of French in our schools. Only today it's been announced that the government wants to push Mandarin, Urdu and Arabic instead of French. I applaud the fact that they have had the courage to recognise that these languages are far more important.

I do recommend that people learn other languages. I have found it very interesting. The second term starts tomorrow and I can't wait.

DY

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