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peterbirksA couple of hands, and an example of two parts of Poker.
The first is something that I have mentioned before; that poker is a game of not making mistakes rather than of briliance, which is why NL is dangerous for me, because I freely admit that I am prone to occasional horrific lapses. And these are more expensive in NL than they are in Limit.
The second is something which I didn't think that I was vulnerable to, but maybe I am. So I shall have to keep my eye open for it. It's the famed "winner's tilt".
HOLD'EM POT LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/05/28 - 02:48:04 (ET)
9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Pizzzzeanut ($19.45 in chips)
Seat 2: vialli99 ($30.50 in chips)
Seat 4: TYDL-TKL ($83.10 in chips)
Seat 5: bjarteflem ($26.75 in chips)
Seat 6: KrazedAAce ($57.30 in chips)
Seat 7: azngetto77 ($42.10 in chips)
Seat 8: cwr2 ($53.80 in chips)
Seat 9: Hero ($56.15 in chips)
KrazedAAce: posts small blind $0.25
azngetto77: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [7♣ 7♠]
cwr2: folds
Hero: raises $1.25 to $1.75
At this level, the game is fairly passive. If there was a good chance of me being reraised, I'd throw this away most of the time.
Pizzzzeanut: folds
vialli99: folds
TYDL-TKL: calls $1.75
bjarteflem: folds
KrazedAAce: folds
azngetto77: folds
*** FLOP *** [7♡ T◊ 3♣]
Hero: bets $1.50
A weak lead to hint that I've got something like AK and have missed.
TYDL-TKL: raises $7.05 to $8.55
Hero: calls $7.05
A reraise here would rather defeat the image created by the weak lead. Let him think that I'm chasing my A or K
*** TURN *** [7♡ T◊ 3♣] [5◊]
Hero: bets $3
Well, it worked last time.
TYDL-TKL: raises $3 to $6
Hero: raises $3 to $9
I'd rather hoped that he would raise more. It's beginning to look unlikely to me that I'm going to be able to get all my money in now. But I can't see him folding to a mini-reraise. If he raises me back, then I'll probably punt an all-in.
TYDL-TKL: calls $3
Oh well. Never mind.
*** RIVER *** [7♡ T◊ 3♣ 5◊] [6♣]
Hero: bets $20
This leaves me with $16 behind. Perhaps I could have bet $25 here. If the guy has a pair of 4s I'm fucked, of course, but that's seeing shadows. He might have a pair of sixes.
TYDL-TKL: calls $20
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero: shows [7♣ 7♠] (three of a kind, Sevens)
TYDL-TKL: mucks hand
Hero collected $76.35 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $79.35 | Rake $3
Board [7♡ T◊ 3♣ 5◊ 6♣]
Seat 4: TYDL-TKL mucked [T♠ Q◊]
Seat 9: Hero showed [7♣ 7♠] and won ($76.35) with three of a kind, Sevens.
I thought that I got about as much as I could out of the guy, given his hand. But I still look at it as $16 that I failed to win. But would anything larger have meant me losing my customer? It's easy to say "No! These people always call". But we don't know that. We just see the times that they call the big bets. Not the times that they fold.
Anyhow, within seconds (unfortunately, for me), this hand came up at another table.
HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/05/28 - 02:49:47 (ET)
9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: kmar1085 ($134.85 in chips)
Seat 2: yome ($19.25 in chips)
Seat 4: Noecrusoe77 ($12.30 in chips)
Seat 5: paservant ($91.95 in chips)
Seat 6: [M69] ($55 in chips)
Seat 7: hoppy ($48.45 in chips)
Seat 8: Matt98568 ($56.30 in chips)
Seat 9: Hero ($35.90 in chips)
Noecrusoe77: posts small blind $0.25
paservant: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [A♠ Q♣]
[M69]: calls $0.50
hoppy: folds
Matt98568: folds
Hero: raises $1.75 to $2.25
kmar1085: folds
yome: folds
Noecrusoe77: folds
paservant: calls $1.75
[M69]: calls $1.75
I'd rather have one opponent than two with this kind of hand, and an AK is not ruled out opposite me. I should really play this cagily.
*** FLOP *** [Q◊ 2♣ T♣]
paservant: checks
[M69]: checks
Hero: bets $5
I decide on a standard continuation. I still have my doubts about this. I'm building a big pot when, with TPTK, I don't really want a big pot. Than again, on this board, I think that my $5 will probably take it down. Unfortunately, it doesn't.
paservant: calls $5
[M69]: folds
*** TURN *** [Q◊ 2♣ T♣] [9♣]
paservant: checks
Hero: bets $28.65 and is all-in
dreadful
paservant: calls $28.65
*** RIVER *** [Q◊ 2♣ T♣ 9♣] [2◊]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
paservant: shows [A♣ 7♣] (a flush, Ace high)
Hero: mucks hand
paservant collected $71.30 from pot
yome said, "nh"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $74.30 | Rake $3
Board [Q◊ 2♣ T♣ 9♣ 2◊]
Seat 5: paservant (big blind) showed [A♣ 7♣] and won ($71.30) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 9: Hero mucked [A♠ Q♣]
What was going through my head? I don't know. Winner's tilt, pure and simple. The call on the flop indicates a chase. A club comes. Perhaps I thought that he would have led out with the flush, but that ain't necessarily so (as this hand shows).
On the plus side, when I replayed the hand, I realized that my mistake didn't cost me as much as I thought it did. To check behind here is ridiculously wimpish, but even if I do, I'm obliging myself to make a crying call for a modest river bet. If I bet here (which is what I would normally do), it's got to be something like $10, and then I fold to the reraise. So, net cost, about $17. Not worth the annoyance that I felt with myself at the time, given that it was probably a valuable lesson learnt
The first is something that I have mentioned before; that poker is a game of not making mistakes rather than of briliance, which is why NL is dangerous for me, because I freely admit that I am prone to occasional horrific lapses. And these are more expensive in NL than they are in Limit.
The second is something which I didn't think that I was vulnerable to, but maybe I am. So I shall have to keep my eye open for it. It's the famed "winner's tilt".
HOLD'EM POT LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/05/28 - 02:48:04 (ET)
9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Pizzzzeanut ($19.45 in chips)
Seat 2: vialli99 ($30.50 in chips)
Seat 4: TYDL-TKL ($83.10 in chips)
Seat 5: bjarteflem ($26.75 in chips)
Seat 6: KrazedAAce ($57.30 in chips)
Seat 7: azngetto77 ($42.10 in chips)
Seat 8: cwr2 ($53.80 in chips)
Seat 9: Hero ($56.15 in chips)
KrazedAAce: posts small blind $0.25
azngetto77: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [7♣ 7♠]
cwr2: folds
Hero: raises $1.25 to $1.75
At this level, the game is fairly passive. If there was a good chance of me being reraised, I'd throw this away most of the time.
Pizzzzeanut: folds
vialli99: folds
TYDL-TKL: calls $1.75
bjarteflem: folds
KrazedAAce: folds
azngetto77: folds
*** FLOP *** [7♡ T◊ 3♣]
Hero: bets $1.50
A weak lead to hint that I've got something like AK and have missed.
TYDL-TKL: raises $7.05 to $8.55
Hero: calls $7.05
A reraise here would rather defeat the image created by the weak lead. Let him think that I'm chasing my A or K
*** TURN *** [7♡ T◊ 3♣] [5◊]
Hero: bets $3
Well, it worked last time.
TYDL-TKL: raises $3 to $6
Hero: raises $3 to $9
I'd rather hoped that he would raise more. It's beginning to look unlikely to me that I'm going to be able to get all my money in now. But I can't see him folding to a mini-reraise. If he raises me back, then I'll probably punt an all-in.
TYDL-TKL: calls $3
Oh well. Never mind.
*** RIVER *** [7♡ T◊ 3♣ 5◊] [6♣]
Hero: bets $20
This leaves me with $16 behind. Perhaps I could have bet $25 here. If the guy has a pair of 4s I'm fucked, of course, but that's seeing shadows. He might have a pair of sixes.
TYDL-TKL: calls $20
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero: shows [7♣ 7♠] (three of a kind, Sevens)
TYDL-TKL: mucks hand
Hero collected $76.35 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $79.35 | Rake $3
Board [7♡ T◊ 3♣ 5◊ 6♣]
Seat 4: TYDL-TKL mucked [T♠ Q◊]
Seat 9: Hero showed [7♣ 7♠] and won ($76.35) with three of a kind, Sevens.
I thought that I got about as much as I could out of the guy, given his hand. But I still look at it as $16 that I failed to win. But would anything larger have meant me losing my customer? It's easy to say "No! These people always call". But we don't know that. We just see the times that they call the big bets. Not the times that they fold.
Anyhow, within seconds (unfortunately, for me), this hand came up at another table.
HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/05/28 - 02:49:47 (ET)
9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: kmar1085 ($134.85 in chips)
Seat 2: yome ($19.25 in chips)
Seat 4: Noecrusoe77 ($12.30 in chips)
Seat 5: paservant ($91.95 in chips)
Seat 6: [M69] ($55 in chips)
Seat 7: hoppy ($48.45 in chips)
Seat 8: Matt98568 ($56.30 in chips)
Seat 9: Hero ($35.90 in chips)
Noecrusoe77: posts small blind $0.25
paservant: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [A♠ Q♣]
[M69]: calls $0.50
hoppy: folds
Matt98568: folds
Hero: raises $1.75 to $2.25
kmar1085: folds
yome: folds
Noecrusoe77: folds
paservant: calls $1.75
[M69]: calls $1.75
I'd rather have one opponent than two with this kind of hand, and an AK is not ruled out opposite me. I should really play this cagily.
*** FLOP *** [Q◊ 2♣ T♣]
paservant: checks
[M69]: checks
Hero: bets $5
I decide on a standard continuation. I still have my doubts about this. I'm building a big pot when, with TPTK, I don't really want a big pot. Than again, on this board, I think that my $5 will probably take it down. Unfortunately, it doesn't.
paservant: calls $5
[M69]: folds
*** TURN *** [Q◊ 2♣ T♣] [9♣]
paservant: checks
Hero: bets $28.65 and is all-in
dreadful
paservant: calls $28.65
*** RIVER *** [Q◊ 2♣ T♣ 9♣] [2◊]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
paservant: shows [A♣ 7♣] (a flush, Ace high)
Hero: mucks hand
paservant collected $71.30 from pot
yome said, "nh"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $74.30 | Rake $3
Board [Q◊ 2♣ T♣ 9♣ 2◊]
Seat 5: paservant (big blind) showed [A♣ 7♣] and won ($71.30) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 9: Hero mucked [A♠ Q♣]
What was going through my head? I don't know. Winner's tilt, pure and simple. The call on the flop indicates a chase. A club comes. Perhaps I thought that he would have led out with the flush, but that ain't necessarily so (as this hand shows).
On the plus side, when I replayed the hand, I realized that my mistake didn't cost me as much as I thought it did. To check behind here is ridiculously wimpish, but even if I do, I'm obliging myself to make a crying call for a modest river bet. If I bet here (which is what I would normally do), it's got to be something like $10, and then I fold to the reraise. So, net cost, about $17. Not worth the annoyance that I felt with myself at the time, given that it was probably a valuable lesson learnt
