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peterbirksI’m not sure if I played this hand like an idiot or not. :Luckily, my opponent was an even bigger moron, so everything worked out fine. This is a good example where my inexperience with bet-sizing comes into play. In addition, I was four-tabling, so I couldn’t give the hand the attention it deserved, as other things of interest were happening simultaneously. For a couple of the bets I think that I was struggling just to make sure that I got something in before I timed out.
HOLD'EM POT LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50)
Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: greetje ($104.10 in chips)
Seat 2: stealur$1 ($13.35 in chips)
Seat 3: rumgurker ($20.75 in chips)
Seat 5: badman0512 ($26.65 in chips)
Seat 6: maclords ($47.30 in chips)
Seat 7: nuts_shipit ($10 in chips)
Seat 8: Hero ($48.50 in chips)
Seat 9: Donkey ($47.65 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind $0.25
Donkey: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [K♠ K◊]
greetje: calls $0.50
stealur$1: calls $0.50
rumgurker: folds
badman0512: raises $2.25 to $2.75
maclords: folds
nuts_shipit: folds
Hero: raises $4.75 to $7.50
Donkey: calls $7
greetje: folds
stealur$1: folds
badman0512: calls $4.75
I think that this reraise is about right. I’ve looked at my stats, and a reraise in this kind of situation definitely performs better than a limp “to see what happens on the flop”. The call from the Big Blind is a bit concerning, as I was unaware at the time that he was a donkey. My guess would be some kind of pair in an attempt to ttrap me if the set flops (a favourite trick on Stars, where the set waits until the river before raising). Note that our stack sizes are virtually identical.
Pot size $21.50
*** FLOP *** [3◊ J♣ 3♡]
Hero: bets $5.50
Donkey: calls $5.50
badman0512: folds
I really like this flop. Unless opponent has something like A3s or the rather annoying JJ, I’m killing him. It’s definitely a case of him either having three outs or fewer. Putting all this together, I guess that I want opponent to think that I’m playing AK here. Hence the weakness of the lead. In retrospect, this might be wrong, but I’m still ambivalent on the matter.
Pot size: $31.00
*** TURN *** [3◊ J♣ 3♡] [Q♡]
Hero: bets $9.50
Donkey: calls $9.50
This is probably too small. I think that I was a bit rushed here. But I still think I have this guy beaten.
Pot size: $49.50.
*** RIVER *** [3◊ J♣ 3♡ Q♡] [7♡]
I’m now a bit all at sea. If he’s runner-runnered me, I’m fucked anyway, because I still think that a weakish bet will get a call from hands that Im beating. My river bet was really a matter of picking a number out of the air here. I’m not happy with it, but I\m not sure how much (or even if) I should bet.
Hero: bets $14
Donkey: raises $11.15 to $25.15 and is all-in
Like I say, if he’s slow-played me or runner-runner flushed it, or rivered a set of sevens, that’s the way it goes. I’ve pot-committed myself fairly deliberately because I think that there's a chance of a desperation bluff – a bigger chance of that than opponent hitting a three-outer to beat me.
Hero: calls $11.15
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Donkey: shows [J♠ 7◊] (two pair, Jacks and Sevens)
Not a hand that I had on my radar, to be honest.
Hero: shows [K♠ K◊] (two pair, Kings and Threes)
Hero collected $100.80 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $103.80 | Rake $3
Board [3◊ J♣ 3♡ Q♡ 7♡]
Seat 1: greetje folded before Flop
Seat 2: stealur$1 folded before Flop
Seat 3: rumgurker folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: badman0512 folded on the Flop
Seat 6: maclords folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: nuts_shipit (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Hero (small blind) showed [K♠ K◊] and won ($100.80) with two pair, Kings and Threes
Seat 9: Donkey (big blind) showed [J♠ 7◊] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Sevens
I think that I bet-sized this badly throughout, and if I had just been one-tabling, I would have played it differently. However, given that the guy was only ever drawing to two outs,the bet sizes were probably for the best.
His raise was, I am sure, for value, because he simply mis-read the board and missed the pair of threes (or forgot about them). “Woohoo, I’ve hit two pair! Raise! Raise!.”
Er, yes, nice one. But the threes on the board save me....
HOLD'EM POT LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50)
Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: greetje ($104.10 in chips)
Seat 2: stealur$1 ($13.35 in chips)
Seat 3: rumgurker ($20.75 in chips)
Seat 5: badman0512 ($26.65 in chips)
Seat 6: maclords ($47.30 in chips)
Seat 7: nuts_shipit ($10 in chips)
Seat 8: Hero ($48.50 in chips)
Seat 9: Donkey ($47.65 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind $0.25
Donkey: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [K♠ K◊]
greetje: calls $0.50
stealur$1: calls $0.50
rumgurker: folds
badman0512: raises $2.25 to $2.75
maclords: folds
nuts_shipit: folds
Hero: raises $4.75 to $7.50
Donkey: calls $7
greetje: folds
stealur$1: folds
badman0512: calls $4.75
I think that this reraise is about right. I’ve looked at my stats, and a reraise in this kind of situation definitely performs better than a limp “to see what happens on the flop”. The call from the Big Blind is a bit concerning, as I was unaware at the time that he was a donkey. My guess would be some kind of pair in an attempt to ttrap me if the set flops (a favourite trick on Stars, where the set waits until the river before raising). Note that our stack sizes are virtually identical.
Pot size $21.50
*** FLOP *** [3◊ J♣ 3♡]
Hero: bets $5.50
Donkey: calls $5.50
badman0512: folds
I really like this flop. Unless opponent has something like A3s or the rather annoying JJ, I’m killing him. It’s definitely a case of him either having three outs or fewer. Putting all this together, I guess that I want opponent to think that I’m playing AK here. Hence the weakness of the lead. In retrospect, this might be wrong, but I’m still ambivalent on the matter.
Pot size: $31.00
*** TURN *** [3◊ J♣ 3♡] [Q♡]
Hero: bets $9.50
Donkey: calls $9.50
This is probably too small. I think that I was a bit rushed here. But I still think I have this guy beaten.
Pot size: $49.50.
*** RIVER *** [3◊ J♣ 3♡ Q♡] [7♡]
I’m now a bit all at sea. If he’s runner-runnered me, I’m fucked anyway, because I still think that a weakish bet will get a call from hands that Im beating. My river bet was really a matter of picking a number out of the air here. I’m not happy with it, but I\m not sure how much (or even if) I should bet.
Hero: bets $14
Donkey: raises $11.15 to $25.15 and is all-in
Like I say, if he’s slow-played me or runner-runner flushed it, or rivered a set of sevens, that’s the way it goes. I’ve pot-committed myself fairly deliberately because I think that there's a chance of a desperation bluff – a bigger chance of that than opponent hitting a three-outer to beat me.
Hero: calls $11.15
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Donkey: shows [J♠ 7◊] (two pair, Jacks and Sevens)
Not a hand that I had on my radar, to be honest.
Hero: shows [K♠ K◊] (two pair, Kings and Threes)
Hero collected $100.80 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $103.80 | Rake $3
Board [3◊ J♣ 3♡ Q♡ 7♡]
Seat 1: greetje folded before Flop
Seat 2: stealur$1 folded before Flop
Seat 3: rumgurker folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: badman0512 folded on the Flop
Seat 6: maclords folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: nuts_shipit (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Hero (small blind) showed [K♠ K◊] and won ($100.80) with two pair, Kings and Threes
Seat 9: Donkey (big blind) showed [J♠ 7◊] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Sevens
I think that I bet-sized this badly throughout, and if I had just been one-tabling, I would have played it differently. However, given that the guy was only ever drawing to two outs,the bet sizes were probably for the best.
His raise was, I am sure, for value, because he simply mis-read the board and missed the pair of threes (or forgot about them). “Woohoo, I’ve hit two pair! Raise! Raise!.”
Er, yes, nice one. But the threes on the board save me....
Ultra-donkey
Date: 2007-05-30 12:21 pm (UTC)I'm no world-beater, but I'd have bet between half the pot and the whole pot on the flop, and with the draws available on the turn I'd have been betting much more than you did, with a view to getting all-in. Possibly your donkey would have ducked out, but I'd have lived with it. It's not like he was going to be holding on to his money for long by the looks of it.
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Re: Ultra-donkey
Date: 2007-05-30 12:39 pm (UTC)PJ