Ephemera

Sep. 22nd, 2010 08:13 pm
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I went for a walk into Greenwich on Saturday. As I said on Facebook, I was saddened to see a version of the three-card-trick being played in Greenwich Park. I was more saddened that there was not a single policeman "on the ground" in all of Greenwich. This, after all, is perhaps one of the busiest parts of London for a concentration of tourists at the weekend. For there to be no police presence at all is little short of a disgrace -- if only to give people directions. I presume that they were all on a detail to guard the Pope.

On my way back I used my Google Maps on the Dell Streak to full advantage, wandering down side streets that went I knew not where. It's incredible how there are some extremely poor council flats (think, nearly all first-generation immigrants, because the second-generation immigrants have moved upmarket) not 300 yards from the centre of Greenwich.

After crossing the railway to the Blackheath side of the tracks I went on another little diversion, off Point Hill, and came across a path between two houses that led up to Blackheath via an unmapped route (unmapped on Google Maps, that is). Very pleasant, and a clear sign that I was in an upmarket area by a predominance of signs attached to lampposts: "Maximum of four dogs per walker". In Wansted Flats one would take this to mean no more than four pit-bull terriers per British National Party supporter, but here it was clearly a sign that people are rich enough to pay other people to walk their dogs.

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I slept for 10 hours last night, albeit with a couple of interruptions, and, for the first time in months, woke up feeling awake. So this is what it feels like, I thought. I suspect that I have spent much of this year in some kind of sleep-deprived muzzy haze -- to such an extent that I simply took it as the natural way of being.

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I was thinking of applying to be a speechwriter for any of the current crop of politicians. To this end, I have been researching the speeches given at the time of the Salem witch trials, since these would appear to be the most useful when referring to bond traders and bankers.

I mean, there really has been some rich stuff flying around. Clegg says that using an accountant to reduce your tax bill is "unethical". God, I don't want to pay too little tax, but I would quite like to pay the right amount of tax, TYVM. It's not my fault the tax system is so hideously complicated that I need an accountant to work out what the correct amount of tax is.

And then Vince Cable seems to go, well, mad. "The markets are often irrational, or rigged", he said, but in a fashion that implied that the second word was synonymous with the first, not an alternative. Hell, of course markets are irrational. Anyone still believing in perfect markets would have been carted off to the LTCM Funny Farm years ago. But to call them "rigged" in the same sentence -- something which happens far more rarely -- is misleading at best and downright inflammatory at worst.

But, hell, inflammatory is what it's all about, isn't it? All that money which people borrowed for 10 years in times of easy credit -- all of that was the fault of some nameless banker, who grabbed people in off the street and forced them to borrow thousands of pounds. "But they didn't tell us that it would have to be repaid!!!!" people scream. Well, er, duh. And so they go in search of scapegoats.

The banks are no angels in this. They are mendacious cunts who even now are trying to persuade me how beneficial it would be to (a) take out a new bank account that is spectacularly bad value and (b) have a chat with a "mortgage adviser" who would doubtless try to arrange a switch for me to an unsuitable product that would pocket him a few hundred quid in commission. But the point here is that I know that there is no such thing as a free lunch. If something pays a seller commission, then that commission (and more besides) is coming out of my pocket. Should people be let off because they were "stupid" or, in current parlance, "unsophisticated"? If the rules as they existed at the time were broken then, yes. But if both parties were operating within the rules as they existed at the time, well, I would say, that's a good lesson in life that you learnt there, son.

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The Radio 4 programme on "The Brown Years", an illustration of the unseemly haste with which histories are put together these days, covered the early months of the 2007-10 administration, leading up to the disastrous sequence of events whereby election fever mounted, and then Labour bottled it. The justification for bottling it -- that the focus groups drifted rapidly away as a result of Osborne's Inheritance Tax promise (it was a million quid, btw....) ---- seems a fairly pathetic excuse that is generally accepted, even by the "impartial" commentator. The point being made was that it was right to abandon the election plans because it was no longer certain that Brown would win. The relevant point (that none of the participants addressed) was that it didn't matter whether he would be certain to win; all that mattered was that going in October 2007 was just about the best chance Brown would ever have.

But that is by the by. What was most interesting was the revelation that Ed Balls was the man behind the "blame game" that followed within about 15 minutes of the announcement that there would be no Autumn 2007 election. As a result of this a couple of Brown's old hatchet men at the Treasury, plus Ed Milliband, became the "fall guys" for the fiasco of raised and then dashed expectations.

Balls denies that he was the guilty party, but I'm afraid that the words of Mandy Rice-Davies travel through history here. "He would, wouldn't he".

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Re: SE London and taxes

Date: 2010-09-23 08:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jellymillion.livejournal.com
My goodness, I didn't know the old Limited Company/Dividend thing was still possible - HMRC stopped computer contractors doing it a while ago, IIRC. As a returnee to wage-slavery (albeit better-paid than ever I was when freelance) I'm a bit out of touch.

The wife-making-coffee-for-tax-allowance thing is, I think, beyond the likely ethical boundary of avoidance, but I can't see that it's actually worth enforcing from a cost-benefit point-of-view.

I agree 100% that we need a straightforward, comprensible (and comprehensive) and fair tax system. Of course, we have to define what we mean by "fair" - one of my major gripes with politicians just now, btw. And it's no practical good going after the "rich": there aren't enough of them in the first place and they have the resources to minimise their liabilities.

The thing is, it's not really about "fairness", it's about appeasing the voter groups whose support you need to retain/secure. All the public rhetoric is just politics and we're much worse-off for it. It's not even half-past nine and I'm already angry...

IR35

Date: 2010-09-23 09:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geoffchall.livejournal.com
It's all down to what constitutes a Personal Service Company guv. The computer consultants used to use a PSC to turn what was really an employment into an income-stream for a company which they could then take out of the company as non-NI'd dividends. That's what IR35 was designed to put a stop to. But if your income-stream was never going to have had NI taken from it in the first place (say you just play in sessions or do the lighting design for rock bands), then the one-man company can still do that.
It's different if you have an income-source that is self-employed for tax, but an employment for NI, but that case will be up in court soon.

The wife-making-coffee thing and saving 6,000 x 40% is exactly what Clegg is on about. Some avoidance is legitimate (sometimes questionably so) but immoral. But a promised white paper on the whole area of income-shifting and 'establishing a level playing field for SMEs' has been put off for about the last 5 years.

It could and should be simpler - the first thing to go would be the whole idea of National Insurance. Get real, raise tax to 31% instead of 20%+11% and scrap the whole damned apparatus. We're going to provide a piss-poor pension or means-tested wrinklies benefit to everyone so why make the pretence that there's any kind of funding going on. Require everyone to do a Tax Return every year - it'll provide additional employment on both sides of the fence and it'll avoid this whole nonsense of under and overpayments that's recently arisen, and it will make people take responsibility for their own taxes instead of failing to understand it.

Scrap every little bit of special allowances for films, electric cars, small workshops, blind people and on and on. Tax capital gains as income without exception, ignoring the bollocks talked about concessions to people who want to enjoy the fruits of their building up a business to pass on to the next generation. If your snot-nosed brats get handed 75% of a business instead of 100%, they're still fortunate bastards.

You need tax rates that rise gently and incrementally. There's no need for a system that takes either 0%, 20% or 40%. First 8K tax-free, next 10K at 10%, next 10K at 20% etc etc.

Root and branch change is required by a political party that is geared up to do it at the beginning of a parliament. Nope - not in our lifetimes.

Re: IR35

Date: 2010-09-23 12:55 pm (UTC)
ext_44: (crisis)
From: [identity profile] jiggery-pokery.livejournal.com
I'd vote for you, particularly for the bit that taxes the incremental income of people making over 108k at 100%+.

Disingenuity aside - we can argue about the numbers later - I'm not sure that We're going to provide a piss-poor pension or means-tested wrinklies benefit to everyone would be popular. I think it's the right thing to do, possibly with the exception of a bit of twiddling to provide fair treatment for people who live and work in one country and retire in another (NB this is not a bluddy foreigners rant, not least because I have an ignorant gut feeling that we have more emigrant than immigrant retirees, and I care more about reciprocal protection for our emigrants than about screwing the immigrants) but I can imagine the usual suspects being up in arms about it. This is probably another reason in its favour.

On the other hand, what do I know? I think inheritance tax is the best tax of them all. I wouldn't want it to kick in at 100% over £0, but I would rather see it moving in the opposite direction to the one in which it is doing - and wouldn't mind at all if it did so before I stand to (possibly) inherit, albeit at a level well under that which is set to be taxed, though at a level at which I think it probably should be.

Re: IR35

Date: 2010-09-26 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Why is it 'fair' for percentage rates of tax to rise at all, incrementally or otherwise?


Titmus

Re: IR35

Date: 2010-11-05 10:35 pm (UTC)
ext_44: (mobius-scarf)
From: [identity profile] jiggery-pokery.livejournal.com
the first thing to go would be the whole idea of National Insurance. Get real, raise tax to 31% instead of 20%+11% and scrap the whole damned apparatus

I was so taken with your suggestion that I have proposed your idea in a discussion elsewhere. It was pointed out to me that while the employee contribution due to NI is indeed 11%, for certain rates of income, there is also an employer contribution element to NI as well. Accordingly, while you could get rid of the employee NI apparatus, you'd still need the employer NI apparatus. This would result in a considerable loss of the benefits otherwise to be had.

A fix suggested for this was, and I quote, "to add 20% to income tax rates, to replace NI, and make it mandatory for employers to give everyone a 9% pay rise using the money they're no longer paying in NI contributions. This does shaft a few people. It's a big tax rise for people earning over the employees' NI ceiling, and an even bigger tax rise on investments and other unearned income which isn't liable to NI at all. It also makes capital gains look very very attractive instead of income, because the tax rate is less than half as high."

(Edited to remove a typo.)
Edited Date: 2010-11-05 10:36 pm (UTC)

Re: IR35

Date: 2010-11-08 09:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geoffchall.livejournal.com
Oh it's not a one-stop solution - there would have to be other things to be brought in. You'd need to be replacing Employer's NI with a payroll tax, which we used to have in the very dim past - known as Selective Employment Tax, which I think died around the transition from Purchase Tax to VAT. An SET would have the advantage that you could adjust it to fall less heavily on smaller employers, though that way lies abuse.

The trickiest thing to handle with the tax/NI merger is the status of pensioners. You stop paying NI when you're 65 and if you merged the two then you'd have to do something to redress the fact that they would now be paying 31% where they were previously paying 20% and increasing their tax payments by half isn't politically very good. You cure it with making changes to the pension/benefits system. Of course you could argue that the old bastards got the best out of the system and ought to be made to bear their share of the suffering but it doesn't look good in the papers if you want to be re-elected.

Re: IR35

Date: 2010-11-08 09:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peterbirks.livejournal.com
The dreadful thing about SET (which I can just about remember) was that it was a sop to the Labour Party cloth cap brigade, which believed that manufacturing (SET-exempt) was inherently morally superior to the service sector (SET-slaughtered).

Since the UK's future was in the service sector, that particular prejudice probably set back the current UK economy a good couple of years.

Payroll tax has other unfortunate implications -- an almost inherent bias against part-time workers is one.

I'm not defending NI here, which I agree is a joke.

But the major problem for all governments these days is how to raise revenue effectively as well as 'fairly'. And when it's a choice of one or the other, then fairness goes out of the window.

At the moment the NI system works even more against the under-65s -- surely an artificial age-divide these days when people who reach that age can expect to live another 23 years or so. Scrap NI, lump much of it onto Income Tax, a bit of it onto Corporation Tax, and give a sop to the elderly by gradually increasing the age allowance before income tax is paid. Something like a grand a year, perhaps.

PJ

Re: IR35

Date: 2010-11-09 12:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geoffchall.livejournal.com
Oh God, no I wouldn't want the original SET back. Nor am I suggesting they do anything as crass as to call it a payroll tax. If I had the time I'd go back and have a look at just what happened in 1972? 1973? when VAT came in because somehow it replaced SET and Purchase Tax. I've no idea how that went down and I'll have to look it all up - just in February not now.

No return to the original bias of SET but you could use the Selectivity to slant things. Small employers (not that I'm biased you understand), could be favoured, institutions that say, paid bonuses that the government disapproved of, could be kicked in the balls. Just a revamped Employers' NI.

The Revenue have seriously looked at this as part of their concerns over having a level playing field for small businesses, so that it doesn't matter if you're a limited company, a partnership or a sole trader. Their other horse in that particular race is to charge NI on dividend income, maybe indiscriminately and maybe on shareholdings which represent more than 5% of the ownership of the company. Research continues.

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