Some limit hands
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peterbirksI have stepped back up to $5-$10. No real reason. I just think you have to play where you feel comfortable. And I fel comfortable at $5-$10 this week. Next week, I might not. Weird.
Two hands. One is just to show that I don’t always lay down top pair (only when I know that it’s no good :=))
POKERSTARS HOLD'EM LIMIT ($5/$10) - 2005/11/18
Table 'Klotho' Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: loadawood ($183 in chips)
Seat 2: malepilot533 ($323.50 in chips)
Seat 3: PanicSr ($119.50 in chips)
Seat 4: patrizi ($357.50 in chips)
Seat 6: frantz28 ($100 in chips)
Seat 7: srROLLO ($154 in chips)
Seat 8: smlvlsupramn ($337.50 in chips)
Seat 9: Birks ($490 in chips)
Seat 10: RounderCA ($521 in chips)
RounderCA: posts small blind $2
loadawood: posts big blind $5
frantz28: posts small blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Birks [Kh Qs]
malepilot533: calls $5
PanicSr: calls $5
patrizi: calls $5
frantz28: calls $5
srROLLO: calls $5
smlvlsupramn: calls $5
Birks: calls $5
RounderCA: folds
loadawood: checks
There is a minor argument for me raising here. Suited, it’s definitely a raise. At higher levels or lower levels than 2/4 to 5/10 I think that a call is right, but in this range of stakes, a raise can work well. Whatever, I’m not “in the zone”, so I take the less adventurous route
*** FLOP *** [7d Qd 9c]
Top pair for me, no flush draw, not much of a straight option. I’m not in good shape here except for the fact that I have position. Now, never let it be said that position is irrelevant in limit!
loadawood: checks
malepilot533: checks
PanicSr: checks
patrizi: checks
frantz28: checks
srROLLO: checks
smlvlsupramn: bets $5
Birks: raises $5 to $10
loadawood: calls $10
malepilot533: folds
PanicSr: folds
patrizi: calls $10
frantz28: folds
srROLLO: folds
smlvlsupramn: calls $5
A late bet from smlvlspram doesn’t mean much more than he has two cards. He’s loose, aggressive, has been up for 18 hours and might well have tosh like QJ or T9. My major worry is the call from loadawood.
*** TURN *** [7d Qd 9c] [2c]
loadawood: checks
patrizi: checks
smlvlsupramn: checks
Birks: bets $10
loadawood: calls $10
patrizi: calls $10
smlvlsupramn: folds
That’s about as good a turn as I want. ‘m probably still odds against to win this hand, but I’m still favourite.
*** RIVER *** [7d Qd 9c 2c] [5d]
Ugh. Well, I’m not betting for value.
loadawood: checks
patrizi: bets $10
Birks: calls $10
loadawood: folds
I can’t fold here. Patrizi is a chaser and there’s a ream of hands he could have besides two diamonds. He’s also quite incompetent enough to bet for desperation. I’m getting 12-to-1 on the call.
*** SHOW DOWN ***
patrizi: shows [Kc Tc] (high card King)
Birks: shows [Kh Qs] (a pair of Queens)
Birks collected $131 from pot
++++++++++++++
I make no comment on the following hand apart from the fact that it shows how incomprehensible the game can be. I made the right decision to fold what looks like a nice hand, but not for the right reasons. This is an example where a fold comes from a range of possibilities that you add together.
POKERSTARS HOLD'EM LIMIT ($5/$10) - 2005/11/18
Table 'Signe' Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: Birks ($316 in chips)
Seat 2: MAQK ($498.50 in chips)
Seat 3: jtt300 ($330.50 in chips)
Seat 4: Comus 69 ($165 in chips)
Seat 5: malepilot533 ($185 in chips)
Seat 6: fimmaster ($93 in chips)
Seat 7: loadawood ($168 in chips)
Seat 8: logger423 ($420 in chips)
Seat 9: worm398 ($385.50 in chips)
Seat 10: FourKing ($623.50 in chips)
FourKing: posts small blind $2
Birks: posts big blind $5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Birks [Kd Ks]
MAQK: calls $5
jtt300: calls $5
Comus 69: folds
malepilot533: raises $5 to $10
fimmaster: folds
loadawood: calls $10
logger423: folds
worm398: folds
FourKing: folds
Birks: raises $5 to $15
MAQK: calls $10
jtt300: calls $10
malepilot533: raises $5 to $20
Betting is capped
loadawood: calls $10
Birks: calls $5
MAQK: calls $5
jtt300: calls $5
$79 in the pot (7.9 BB)
With some players the four-bet would indicate Aces, but not malepilot533. He’s laggy but dangerous.
*** FLOP *** [2s Qd 5d]
I have an overpair and a backdoor flush draw. Looks good. Or does it?
Birks: checks
MAQK: checks
jtt300: checks
malepilot533: bets $5
loadawood: raises $5 to $10
Birks: folds
MAQK: calls $10
jtt300: folds
malepilot533: raises $5 to $15
loadawood: calls $5
MAQK: calls $5
Any explanation? Well, I could say “I had a bad feeling”. But really it was a combination of factors. Loadawood’s raise looks horrible to me. Possibly a set of fives or twos, maybe a set of queens (although I would expect him either to reraise with this pre-flop or flat-call it on the flop). I don’t reckon I’ll be getting away for two bets here, (and I am proved right on that one). Malepilot is also dangerous. This is really not a hand that I want to be in multiway.
*** TURN *** [2s Qd 5d] [3c]
MAQK: checks
malepilot533: bets $10
loadawood: calls $10
MAQK: calls $10
*** RIVER *** [2s Qd 5d 3c] [4s]
Well, I’m blessing my fold. Surely someone has an ace?
MAQK: checks
malepilot533: checks
loadawood: bets $10
jtt300 said, "qq no good now"
MAQK said, "horrible river. grrr..........."
MAQK: calls $10
malepilot533: calls $10
*** SHOW DOWN ***
loadawood: shows [6h 6d] (a straight, Deuce to Six)
MAQK: mucks hand
malepilot533: shows [Kc Kh] (a pair of Kings)
loadawood collected $204 from pot
jtt300 said, "wow"
Go figure.
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $207 | Rake $3
Board [2s Qd 5d 3c 4s]
Seat 1: Birks (big blind) folded [Kd Ks] on the Flop
Seat 2: MAQK mucked [Qh Jh]
Seat 3: jtt300 folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Comus 69 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: malepilot533 showed [Kc Kh] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 6: fimmaster folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: loadawood showed [6h 6d] and won ($204) with a straight, Deuce to Six
Seat 8: logger423 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: worm398 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: FourKing (small blind) folded before Flop
Two hands. One is just to show that I don’t always lay down top pair (only when I know that it’s no good :=))
POKERSTARS HOLD'EM LIMIT ($5/$10) - 2005/11/18
Table 'Klotho' Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: loadawood ($183 in chips)
Seat 2: malepilot533 ($323.50 in chips)
Seat 3: PanicSr ($119.50 in chips)
Seat 4: patrizi ($357.50 in chips)
Seat 6: frantz28 ($100 in chips)
Seat 7: srROLLO ($154 in chips)
Seat 8: smlvlsupramn ($337.50 in chips)
Seat 9: Birks ($490 in chips)
Seat 10: RounderCA ($521 in chips)
RounderCA: posts small blind $2
loadawood: posts big blind $5
frantz28: posts small blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Birks [Kh Qs]
malepilot533: calls $5
PanicSr: calls $5
patrizi: calls $5
frantz28: calls $5
srROLLO: calls $5
smlvlsupramn: calls $5
Birks: calls $5
RounderCA: folds
loadawood: checks
There is a minor argument for me raising here. Suited, it’s definitely a raise. At higher levels or lower levels than 2/4 to 5/10 I think that a call is right, but in this range of stakes, a raise can work well. Whatever, I’m not “in the zone”, so I take the less adventurous route
*** FLOP *** [7d Qd 9c]
Top pair for me, no flush draw, not much of a straight option. I’m not in good shape here except for the fact that I have position. Now, never let it be said that position is irrelevant in limit!
loadawood: checks
malepilot533: checks
PanicSr: checks
patrizi: checks
frantz28: checks
srROLLO: checks
smlvlsupramn: bets $5
Birks: raises $5 to $10
loadawood: calls $10
malepilot533: folds
PanicSr: folds
patrizi: calls $10
frantz28: folds
srROLLO: folds
smlvlsupramn: calls $5
A late bet from smlvlspram doesn’t mean much more than he has two cards. He’s loose, aggressive, has been up for 18 hours and might well have tosh like QJ or T9. My major worry is the call from loadawood.
*** TURN *** [7d Qd 9c] [2c]
loadawood: checks
patrizi: checks
smlvlsupramn: checks
Birks: bets $10
loadawood: calls $10
patrizi: calls $10
smlvlsupramn: folds
That’s about as good a turn as I want. ‘m probably still odds against to win this hand, but I’m still favourite.
*** RIVER *** [7d Qd 9c 2c] [5d]
Ugh. Well, I’m not betting for value.
loadawood: checks
patrizi: bets $10
Birks: calls $10
loadawood: folds
I can’t fold here. Patrizi is a chaser and there’s a ream of hands he could have besides two diamonds. He’s also quite incompetent enough to bet for desperation. I’m getting 12-to-1 on the call.
*** SHOW DOWN ***
patrizi: shows [Kc Tc] (high card King)
Birks: shows [Kh Qs] (a pair of Queens)
Birks collected $131 from pot
++++++++++++++
I make no comment on the following hand apart from the fact that it shows how incomprehensible the game can be. I made the right decision to fold what looks like a nice hand, but not for the right reasons. This is an example where a fold comes from a range of possibilities that you add together.
POKERSTARS HOLD'EM LIMIT ($5/$10) - 2005/11/18
Table 'Signe' Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: Birks ($316 in chips)
Seat 2: MAQK ($498.50 in chips)
Seat 3: jtt300 ($330.50 in chips)
Seat 4: Comus 69 ($165 in chips)
Seat 5: malepilot533 ($185 in chips)
Seat 6: fimmaster ($93 in chips)
Seat 7: loadawood ($168 in chips)
Seat 8: logger423 ($420 in chips)
Seat 9: worm398 ($385.50 in chips)
Seat 10: FourKing ($623.50 in chips)
FourKing: posts small blind $2
Birks: posts big blind $5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Birks [Kd Ks]
MAQK: calls $5
jtt300: calls $5
Comus 69: folds
malepilot533: raises $5 to $10
fimmaster: folds
loadawood: calls $10
logger423: folds
worm398: folds
FourKing: folds
Birks: raises $5 to $15
MAQK: calls $10
jtt300: calls $10
malepilot533: raises $5 to $20
Betting is capped
loadawood: calls $10
Birks: calls $5
MAQK: calls $5
jtt300: calls $5
$79 in the pot (7.9 BB)
With some players the four-bet would indicate Aces, but not malepilot533. He’s laggy but dangerous.
*** FLOP *** [2s Qd 5d]
I have an overpair and a backdoor flush draw. Looks good. Or does it?
Birks: checks
MAQK: checks
jtt300: checks
malepilot533: bets $5
loadawood: raises $5 to $10
Birks: folds
MAQK: calls $10
jtt300: folds
malepilot533: raises $5 to $15
loadawood: calls $5
MAQK: calls $5
Any explanation? Well, I could say “I had a bad feeling”. But really it was a combination of factors. Loadawood’s raise looks horrible to me. Possibly a set of fives or twos, maybe a set of queens (although I would expect him either to reraise with this pre-flop or flat-call it on the flop). I don’t reckon I’ll be getting away for two bets here, (and I am proved right on that one). Malepilot is also dangerous. This is really not a hand that I want to be in multiway.
*** TURN *** [2s Qd 5d] [3c]
MAQK: checks
malepilot533: bets $10
loadawood: calls $10
MAQK: calls $10
*** RIVER *** [2s Qd 5d 3c] [4s]
Well, I’m blessing my fold. Surely someone has an ace?
MAQK: checks
malepilot533: checks
loadawood: bets $10
jtt300 said, "qq no good now"
MAQK said, "horrible river. grrr..........."
MAQK: calls $10
malepilot533: calls $10
*** SHOW DOWN ***
loadawood: shows [6h 6d] (a straight, Deuce to Six)
MAQK: mucks hand
malepilot533: shows [Kc Kh] (a pair of Kings)
loadawood collected $204 from pot
jtt300 said, "wow"
Go figure.
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $207 | Rake $3
Board [2s Qd 5d 3c 4s]
Seat 1: Birks (big blind) folded [Kd Ks] on the Flop
Seat 2: MAQK mucked [Qh Jh]
Seat 3: jtt300 folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Comus 69 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: malepilot533 showed [Kc Kh] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 6: fimmaster folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: loadawood showed [6h 6d] and won ($204) with a straight, Deuce to Six
Seat 8: logger423 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: worm398 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: FourKing (small blind) folded before Flop
